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Showing posts with label Hpv. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Hpv. Show all posts

Tuesday, 7 February 2012

HPV Vaccination; There's More.....

Moving on from my last post, I have looked at outcomes and costs of this protocol, and it seems to me that it is more of a ploy to give GP's 'something to do' (for which they will want paying-as always) and to make 'Pharma' richer, rather than anything of real worth.

The objective at the moment is to vaccinate young girls to 'prevent' in later life the incidence of cervical cancer and now throat cancer (and possibly genital warts). Well the cost is looking pretty staggering. If the NHS is to achieve it's goal of all teenage girls receiving Cervarix (GSK's version of the vaccine), it would cost, at £450 a 'pop', some £2.155 billion. If we add in the boys as well this goes up to £3.375 billion. And that's without factoring in the cost of administering 3 doses over six months which will be at least £5 and probably nearer £7.50 a 'go'. If some sort of 'target' payment is introduced to encourage take up, (likely-because GP's don't do anything for nothing) we're already looking at least an extra £22 million and more likely £40 million. That's an awful lot of taxpayers money, for a problem that isn't really, er... a problem. So what is?

Well, HPV Vaccines are not proven as being preventative, because the timescales involved can be as long as 40 years and generally at least 20 years, before Cervical Cancer develops. So, it will be along time before we know the real outcome of the vaccine protocol. In the majority of cases found, the lesions do not progress to cancer and those who end up with actual cancer have a quite low mortality. The incidence rate in the UK is in fact 8.5 per 100,000 (0.0085%) but the mortality rate is only 2.4 per 100,000, leading one to believe that treatments are very successful or (more likely) a lot of women are being counted who did not really have full stage 3 cancer. Both mortality and incidence have been falling (off a cliff) since the 1950's with the largest decreases in the quintile one would have expected to be most 'at risk', those sexually active in the 1960's (or 70's if not in London), the 55-64 year olds. This cohort have in fact had the most spectacular drop of all, in mortality of 79% (up to 2000). Mortality and obviously incidence increases with age unsurprisingly, but even in those over 65 the mortality is 11.8 per 100,000 or 0.0118%. These sort of percentages if seen in a clinical trial would be viewed as too small to count as significant.

There is now a view (a desperate one) that we should utilise HPV Vaccines for genital warts, (Gardasil is licensed for warts, but not Cervarix), and yes incidence has risen since the 1970's but is now slightly on the decrease. However at 148.7 per 100,000 could hardly be viewed as an 'epidemic' (1.49%). yet some clinicians advocate this for boys/girls and young men/women as a precaution against warts, which the last time I checked could hardly be viewed as 'terminal' and is eminently treatable. I feel all of this 'hype' of vaccination is counterproductive and dangerous. Good sex education and the discouragement of 'early' sexual encounters would be somewhat more in keeping with the needs of society. And, as I said in my last post the actual incidence of harm for vaccination is higher than the risk of cervical cancer.

Do we need to spend vast sums on vaccines of dubious benefit for 'so-called' cancers of extremely low incidence, such as throat, cervical and some sexually transmitted diseases generally without fatalities? Life itself is dangerous and to the best of my knowledge, no one has yet escaped alive. Whilst I would advocate cervical smear tests for women over 30 years (pap tests), I feel we are in danger of more 'disease mongering' if we continue down this road of trying to remove all risks from simply, well 'being' (alive that is). The sort of sums involved are colossal for rewards that are dubious, unsupported by any real scientific evidence, and that can cause harm, even death. The NHS has promoted mammography, DXA-scans, exclusively hospital births, hormone replacement therapy, even thalidomide in it's history (in the main for women) and some of these have turned out to be a tragedy of enormous proportion. In many ways it should take note of the old adage that 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'.

Saturday, 28 January 2012

First They Came For Your Daughters.........

And now for your son's.


A recent headline story in the Independent caught my eye as an example of 'disease mongering'. My dislike of HPV vaccination will have been made clear from my last post, as I feel it is a somewhat large hammer for a very small nut. The vaccine Gardasil, from Merck is seen in this light by myself and and many others. Age standardised mortality rates of Cervical Cancer in the UK stood at 2.4 per 100,000 in 2008 and falling which is a risk of .0024% if my calculation is correct. Down it seems from 1971 of 7.1 per 100,000 and in most of those years the vaccine did not exist. It is also somewhat easy to cure and in many cases no harm results from infection with even the low percentage of CIN 3 lesions detected only progressing to actual cancer 1% of the time. So why we should vaccinate against such a problem bemuses me, when we ignore many other cancers of much higher rates of incidence.

Michael Douglas, a throat cancer sufferer.
A new 'epidemic' it seems, is now being sold as a reason to vaccinate young boys as well as girls. We are told, that Oropharyngeal Cancer (throat cancer) has increased alarmingly, by some 73%! And that HPV vaccines will guard against it's further spread. It is only when you read the actual figures that the figure is put into context. A rise from 1 per 100,000 to 2.3 per 100,000. So yes, it is a rise but that's the 'actual' (rather than relative) risk which remains almost too small to measure, in scientific terms. And one must remember that the 'actual risk' of harm from the vaccine itself. exceeds that figure by some 50% (playing them at their own game), it's about 3.5 per 100,000.

The increase is laid at the door of 'yoofs' predilection for oral sex as opposed to the 'missionary position' one assumes, which does lend to them, some inclination against unwanted pregnancies. It's a pity that such a risque form of sex should be viewed as 'risky' by the Professor (honourary) who broke the story; Hisham Mehanna. This practise increases the risk of HPV infection of the throat by this 'staggering amount' (sic), sufficient for him to advocate HPV vaccination. Yet quite a number of Scientists find themselves at odds with this because the protocol remains largely unproven and in most cases the recipients would have to wait some twenty to thirty years for any evidence that it was, to come to light. And of course, the vaccines do not protect from all HPV strains so their effect is at best 70% for 4 to 10 years.

At the moment the NHS continues to roll out the HPV vaccination of young girls but not boys. This story is a 'move' by someone who combines both Private and NHS careers to frighten young women, girls and now anxious parents, to press for this vaccine to be available for all. It seems a cynical ploy to me to once more 'generate' more things to do for an already declining resource fund; the NHS. I could point out that Mehanna receives funding for some of his studies from GlaxoSmithKline, the maker of one of the two major vaccines; Cervarix. But of course I wouldn't do that, would I?

Wednesday, 30 September 2009

The Killing Fields?

The recent and tragic death of a schoolgirl, after being injected with the vaccination for the Human Pappiloma Virus, raises a number of concerns about attempts by our political masters to prevent diseases in the future. Be it long term or short, a duty of care exists, to ensure that society is not put at greater risk by participating in these protocols, than by taking their chance with the disease or infection by not doing.
Currently the NHS is rolling out the seasonal flu vaccine, swine flu in the near future and the huge campaign to allegedly safeguard young women from cervical cancer with these Hpv vaccines. We are told in all cases that these vaccines are well tested and safe to use, but as studies show all is not quite as we are led to believe.
Adverse reactions have been recorded widely in the USA and even GlaxoSmithKlines' own document shows minor reactions in 10% of all recipients. It is further alleged that inadequate field trials have taken place and that such a huge undertaking, to vaccinate all girls prior to or at puberty, should be approached with more regard to health and safety.
Independent trials seem to be a thing of the past as Big Pharma peddles its wares throughout the civilised world with Government even commissioning (with swine flu) specific medications or vaccines targeted at perceived threats, often as a knee jerk reaction to sensationalist headline illnesses, that when investigated are somewhat less dangerous to the populace than the Daily Mail would have us believe. It is surely a given that offering gold to a snake oil salesman, will elicit a new and better version of his wares.
But Government wants it both ways; it is a well known fact that most victims hospitalised for swine flu had underlying co-morbidity's. And, the illness presents less of a threat to the average adult than seasonal flu, yet it persists with roll out of a hastily prepared and untested vaccine (tests start this week) that will effectively be field trialed in the population. At the same time it is urging mothers to protect their daughters with Cerverix (or the other one) but when one terrible problem occurs it is played down with the inference that an underlying co-morbidity was responsible. There is hypocrisy here.
The same hypocrisy that pervades all politics at present, that primes us all for the cuts to come, yet fails to address the issues of regulation of the very architects of the need for any.